Tuesday, May 13, 2008

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Anonymous said...

The cases of Anti-Semitism during the plague were interesting, as it proved that the minority group is always feared and accused, particularly the Jewish people by the Christian majority. What I found most interesting is that the reading stated that Pope Clement IV "declared the Jews innocent of the charge of well poisoning and excommunicated anyone who harmed them." This seemed like a very different stance for a Pope to take, since I believed that most of them would want to side with the majority, especially during an event like the plague.

Wikipedia stated that Pope Clement IV tended to the sick and oversaw burials during the plague, but never contacted the disease himself. He was also described as a lover of luxury, and in his own words, "lived as a sinner among sinners." These all seem to be conflicting images of the Pope, but I think it would of course depend on the historian. Here is a picture of him.

Anonymous said...

I was looking for more information about women during the middle ages, and more specifically during the plague. One question I had was, "Were women allowed to live alone and be fairly independent during the time of the plague?" The reading hinted that they were because the plague did not spread to as many women since they were more separate from the population. I found this website. It is done by a history professor from Houston, and it is actually informative radio broadcasts. They are mini episodes that have to do with various aspects of life in the Middle Ages. I think it is useful because it is a unique way of presenting basic information.

Anonymous said...

While I was reading I came across a few words I didn't know. The first one was anti-Semitism. I learned it means discrimination against Jews. Then I looked up abhorrence and learned that it means a feeling of utter loathing. During the first part of the reading I thought the whole quarantine deal was really interesting. Too bad I couldn't find anything about it.

Anonymous said...

Sundiata Keita is also known as Sunjata Keyita,Mari Diaja, and Sogolon Djata. His name comes from Sologon (his mother’s name) meaning buffalo women and Djata which means lion. Keita is his clan name. most of what we know about Sundiata comes from Griots, who pass down his story orally.
His father the Mandinka King was told by a Divine hunter that if he married a ugly women then he would have a son who would become a great king. So he married Sologon and they had a son, Sundiata, who couldn’t walk during his childhood.
He raised a strong army and overthrew the king of Mali. He encouraged the growing of rice, beans, and he introduced cotton. After he created a strong and stable empire he took on the title Mansa. His descendants would do the same.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering if the things that people did (in the islamic community) to try and prevent the plague, were viewed in a positive way or not. What they did was summon spirits and perform magical spells and charms. Reading this made me think about how the Islamic community may have judged that.

Also, the reading says that Muslim physicians blamed corrput air for the diseases. It also says that the "corrupt air" was cased by irregular weather, decaying matter and astrological influences. I was wondering if the irregular weather was "The little Ice Age" and also I was unsure of what the astrological influences were.

I thought it was really interesting how each area had their own method for preventing/fighting off the plague. In Cairo healers smeared Armenian clay on the victims, in Muslim Spain grains, cheese, mushrooms and garlic were banned, and brley water, syrup and basil were prescribed as remedies, and in what is now Turkey the heads of the boils were sliced off and "green glands" were extracted. All those methods were very interesting to me. Also I thought that Gabriele de' Mussis was interesting because he thought that bloodlettings and plasters made of mallow leaves would work. Gentile of Foligno was also interesting to me because he thought that dried snake's flesh that was at least 1 year old would help. Even though that was really interesting to me, it was also confusing becuase, he was a victim of the disease, so is it possible that the venom in the snake's flesh may have been what killed him. (well, faster than the plague would have)

I thought Ibn Battuta was interesting so I found some more information on him.

'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Battuta'

and

'http://www.ummah.net/history/scholars/ibn_battuta/'

Anonymous said...

First off, I have a question. At the beginning of the reading, it says that "'People without suspician began to help one another'", but on the next page, it goes into detail about how the Jews especially were suspected of being the originators of the plague by the different religions. Did the fact that the "non-suspectors" were helping people of other religions (possibly including Jews) get them in trouble with their religions?

I also found this site that explains the life of Pope Clement VI who was the man who "declared the Jews innocent" he also went a step farther and excommunicated anyone who hurt the Jews.

Women, who weren't as largly infected as men, were given much more power than they had previously. I was wondering if all their power was stripped away from them once Europe got back on it's feet, or if they just slowly and gradually took power away from them.

For the Mali Reading, I was wondering how long the inflation that Mansa Musa caused affected the egyptian ecomomy.

Anonymous said...

I was interested in the effects of the black plauge, especially the positive ones (the book had one example: some women's power increased). I found this website from Boise State University. If you scroll down, numbers 16-19 talk about the effects of the plague: population loss, economy, culture, art, and politics. Population loss-- everyone knows this from the reading and the statistics are so great, every site about the plague mentions them. Same with the economy; less people means less working class means more pay for the people to do more work. The page about cultural effects mainly talked about the persecution of the Jews and how people wondered why God was making so many people die (persecution of the Jews is a page between economy and cultural effects, but is not on the table of contents). Art during the Black Plague had a very distinct look: lots of dark colors, skulls, skeletons, demons, and anything that can be associated with death and disease. Here is an example of a piece of art produced during the Black Death. This style of art is called "danse macabre", meaning the dance of death. As for political effects of the Black Death, there were not many lasting effects. People in power died from the plague, as well as their successors, so there might have been confusion/ chaos on who the next ruler was.

Anonymous said...

Did the Europe or Asia, or the Middle East every make an attempt at taking Africa? If so was if for their gold? I looked on the internet for a while, and didn’t find anything to confirm this, but in the reading it did say the trade small amount of silver. Also I know that eventually countries in Europe took Africa but that was later.

Anonymous said...

For one, I thought it was interesting that the plague opened the eyes of rulers to their mortality. I would have never thought of that as a result of a plague.

I also had a question. Why was Mali unaffected by the plague? The book says the desert protected it, but what's to stop infected people from traveling across the desert? It traveled well enough in boats.

Thanks to this BBC article I learned some interesting facts about Mali. For example, I learned that it happened to be at its height in the 14th century (the time that Cresques Abrahm described its king as the richest in the world). That probably isn't a coincidence.

The article also tells of a large expedition launched by Mansa Musa. Mansa Musa apparently wanted to cross the Atlantic Ocean (Mali was right next to it) so he sent out a large number of ships, men, and suplies (enough to keep them alive for years). A long time passed, and only one returned. All the other ships had taken a fast ocean current to an unknown area. This certain ship stayed back, and when the other ships didn't return, they went back to Mali.

Anonymous said...

First of all, I thought it was really interesting how people benefited from the plague. I thought it was interesting how people could actually benefit from something that was so devastating. One group of people who benefited from the plague were the peasants, and that made me wonder more about the economy after the plague.

When reading about the plague I became interested in what the economy was like after the plague, and how the plague affected it. I found a great
website that talked about this. It said that the most obvious impact was upon the population, and because of the plague, almost a third of the entire population in Europe was destroyed. This loss resulted in the downfall of the feudal system. Also many lords lost much of their labor force, which allowed many peasants to "venture forth from the lands of their local lords and to seek higher pay for their labor."

Anonymous said...

While I was reading, I came across a word that i had not heard before. That word was Anti-Semitism. I found out that the Wikipedia definition was "is prejudice and hostility toward Jews as a group. The prejudice is usually characterized by a combination of religious, racial and ethnic biases. While the term's etymology might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, since its creation it has been used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews."

I also was interested about effects that the black plague had, and what i found out was that the European Civilization turned very morbid, the general mood of the Europeans had pessimism. Also another effect was the effect that the disease had got everyone to thinking and eventually starting to make everything worse and out of proportion with their thoughts.

I found this information at Wikipedia Black Death

Anonymous said...

While reading I noticed on the side that there was a picture with the capture "The Wife of Bath," and i got very interested in it when I read the little description. I found that this tale tells us the role of women, and it also how they should act. This tale was like the instruction manual on how women should be.
If you would like to look futher into this you can go to Wife of BAth


You can also see the well known image of the women on the tale at Picture

Anonymous said...

While reading tonight’s reading, I was interested in the ruler, Sundiata. I found out from Wikipedia that Mansa Musa is his grand nephew. From a Mr. Dowling Sundiata site (http://www.mrdowling.com/609-sundiata.html) , I found Sundiata was one of twelve children of a Mandinka warrior.
I found a good picture of Sundiata on a horse….at the same Mr. Dowling site

When it was time for Sundiata to accept his father’s throne, “Legend has it that Sundiata stood upright, with a herculean effort and the help of an iron rod, bending the rod in the process.”
http://blackhistorypages.net/pages/sundiata.php

Caroline Smith said...

I posted about antisemitism and millenarianism

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Anonymous said...

Mr link is not working. Here is the link: http://history.boisestate.edu/westciv/plague/

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